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the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> now, let me ask, general allen is now under investigation for his relationship with jill kelley. what can you tell us about the relationship and what can you tell us about miss kelley. >> we should say we don't know for sure. as you pointed out, the e-mails, these voluminous -- apparently voluminous e-mails describe a relationship or -- that appear to be flirtatious but, you know, potentially inappropriate is the word that was first used by the pentagon. but whether it goes more than that, we don't know. we do know that at least one woman, paula broad
the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here...
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the spy who loved me or the dirty dozen or body heat or the year of living dangerously or the love pentagon or how paula got her groove back. something. we'll figure it out. but you get steve buscemi to play general petraeus. he's got the look and this way of giving you a deep inner sliminess. the paula broadwell role is so juicy. you know who has to win, angie jolie. the sex appeal, the toughness. can't you see the scenes of her and the general running through the mountains of afghanistan during which they find a cave and do some cardio. back at home we see the wife, holly petraeus, played by kathy bates. we get bruce willis to play general allen because his entrance makes the story even more bizarre. and to play jill kelley, the hot wife who unnerved the tough broadwell and made an fbi agent go mad and called the fbi launching the whole investigation i would would point back to her, we get, yep, kim kardashian. so what if she can't act. no one can resist her. a general is sending her thousands of e-mails, the sfib sending her shirtless photos, and who will play him, that fbi agent? that's
the spy who loved me or the dirty dozen or body heat or the year of living dangerously or the love pentagon or how paula got her groove back. something. we'll figure it out. but you get steve buscemi to play general petraeus. he's got the look and this way of giving you a deep inner sliminess. the paula broadwell role is so juicy. you know who has to win, angie jolie. the sex appeal, the toughness. can't you see the scenes of her and the general running through the mountains of afghanistan...
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senior officials here at the pentagon have decided it will take new military leadership to do it. defense secretary robert gates mcmckiernan in afghanistan last week to break the bad news, but waited until today to announce it. >> i asked for the resignation of general david mckiernan. >> gates and obama relieving him of command. when they did that and relieved him of command as the lead american commander of the war in afghanistan, that was the first time since general truman fired douglas mcarthur during the korean war that a president relieved a four-star commanding general in the middle of the war he was leading. when president obama did that it was the first time in 58 years anything like that happened in this country, and then he did it again. after he fired the man who was running the war when he took office, the replacement general that president obama sent to lead the war thereafter was this guy, general stanley mcchrystal. there was a immediate contracult around him as around david petraeus. a year after general mcchrisle tal took command, he, too, was fired by president
senior officials here at the pentagon have decided it will take new military leadership to do it. defense secretary robert gates mcmckiernan in afghanistan last week to break the bad news, but waited until today to announce it. >> i asked for the resignation of general david mckiernan. >> gates and obama relieving him of command. when they did that and relieved him of command as the lead american commander of the war in afghanistan, that was the first time since general truman fired...
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putting the decorated veteran and former presidential candidate in charge at the pentagon and not at the state department, as had been widely speculated. "the washington post" is sourcing its reporting to unnamed senior administration officials. senator kerry is also not commenting tonight. if senator kerry does move to the cabinet for defense or any other post, there will be an immediate political question for the democrats as to what happens to his u.s. senate seat in massachusetts. senator kerry had mostly been talked about as a potential replacement for secretary of state hillary clinton. the post reporting tonight that that nomination for secretary of state is instead almost certain to go to united nations ambassador susan rice. republicans tried to make into a scandal susan rice's comments after the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. her comments that the attack was thought to be linked to islamist protests rather than an organized terrorist attack. but the administration and the intelligence committee have stepped up to defend her remarks that sunday. and if she is tapped
putting the decorated veteran and former presidential candidate in charge at the pentagon and not at the state department, as had been widely speculated. "the washington post" is sourcing its reporting to unnamed senior administration officials. senator kerry is also not commenting tonight. if senator kerry does move to the cabinet for defense or any other post, there will be an immediate political question for the democrats as to what happens to his u.s. senate seat in massachusetts....
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as painful as it may be, as difficult as it may be, the pentagon has to step up. they have to find ways to save money, too. and i think a lot of those on the left feel that we've gone too deep into education and other programs. let's make sure this is balanced from this point forward. >> senator, before we let you go, switching topics a bit, i assume that much of today's press conference or a lot of it, too much of it, will be preoccupied with the two co-stars of "you've got mail," general petraeus and paula broadwell, but it leads to a larger issue, many people think, and that is the repeated deployments of the american military to afghanistan following on iraq and the impact it has on service families left behind and the war itself, the lingering 12-year war. what's your view on all of this? >> mike, you put your finger on it. we ought to talk about the real cost of war. it is not just in dollar terms. it certainly includes the terrible loss of life, over 5,000 americans in iraq and afghanistan. it means those who came back with injuries and the impact on indivi
as painful as it may be, as difficult as it may be, the pentagon has to step up. they have to find ways to save money, too. and i think a lot of those on the left feel that we've gone too deep into education and other programs. let's make sure this is balanced from this point forward. >> senator, before we let you go, switching topics a bit, i assume that much of today's press conference or a lot of it, too much of it, will be preoccupied with the two co-stars of "you've got...
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has trids to have a significant republican at a top position in his cabinet, before bob gates in the pentagon for the better part of the first term. i think he wants to do that again. his instinct towards not necessarily to hagel, although i think he is under consideration for one of the jobs, but it's a good time for the reboot and i think we're going to see that happen. >> it's a complicated reboot, right? we knew that clinton was leaving, geithner wants to go, we heard panetta, those were gives. as tom friedman says -- the whole middle east erupts in one giant sound and light show of civil wars, states collapsing and refugee dislocations as the keystone of the region syria gets pulled under and the disorder across the neighborhood and you were worried about the fiscal cliff. >> governor? >> i think john is right about the personnel changes. this is the time. every administration goes through it. if you're re-elected you're going to have this turnover and this is the best time for it. we didn't want it before the election. john is right you don't want it five months down the road when your
has trids to have a significant republican at a top position in his cabinet, before bob gates in the pentagon for the better part of the first term. i think he wants to do that again. his instinct towards not necessarily to hagel, although i think he is under consideration for one of the jobs, but it's a good time for the reboot and i think we're going to see that happen. >> it's a complicated reboot, right? we knew that clinton was leaving, geithner wants to go, we heard panetta, those...
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it's a love pentagon. >> he likes to take pictures of himself without his shirt and shoot them around to verarious people. and somehow he became involved with petraeus and the other generals and the cia thing. wait a minute. this rings a bell. oh, yes. at the fbi, j. edgar hoover used to do the same thing. except it was usually in a backless evening gown. >> yeah. >> president obama gave his first press conference since being re-elected. and a lot of people are saying it looked like he was trying to cover up some of his gray hair. so, i guess obama's major goals include jobs for women and just for men. >> by the way, if you're looking for a job, facebook just launched a new app that may be of use to you. they teamed up with the department of label to create what they call the social jobs app. you can brows through 200 jobless claims. you know it's bad when facebook tells you get off your as and get a job. facebook has an app that will help you lose your job. it's called facebook. try it. >> very true, jimmy. >> the love pentagon. >>> that's what's making news in america this friday mo
it's a love pentagon. >> he likes to take pictures of himself without his shirt and shoot them around to verarious people. and somehow he became involved with petraeus and the other generals and the cia thing. wait a minute. this rings a bell. oh, yes. at the fbi, j. edgar hoover used to do the same thing. except it was usually in a backless evening gown. >> yeah. >> president obama gave his first press conference since being re-elected. and a lot of people are saying it...
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i would refer to you the pentagon for the process under way with regards to general allen. >> reporter: some lawmakers are coming out in support of general allen. >> general allen said he's not guilty of any improper behavior. i think he deserves to have us withhold judgment until the investigation the completed. >> reporter: general petraeus was scheduled to testify today about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. in light of the scandal he will not appear at that hearing a decision that's angered some lawmakers. >> i think it's absolutely imperative that general petraeus come and testify. >> reporter: in his place today acting cia director michael morell a leading candidate to replace petraeus at the cia. now paula broadwell and jill kelly two women involved here are not making any statements to the press so far. general allen is considering making a statement. >> susan mcginnis in washington this morning. >>> jill kelley is well-known in social circles for her work with the military community. kelly and her husband often hosted parties for officers and their families. she w
i would refer to you the pentagon for the process under way with regards to general allen. >> reporter: some lawmakers are coming out in support of general allen. >> general allen said he's not guilty of any improper behavior. i think he deserves to have us withhold judgment until the investigation the completed. >> reporter: general petraeus was scheduled to testify today about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. in light of the scandal he will not appear at that...
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somebody that smart when so much of the war on terror is prosecuted by the cia, to have someone from the pentagon with his background move over to the cia and head that was incredibly lucky for the country because there are few other people who could've made that change, survived moving from one tough bureaucracy to another and be such a great intellectual and forward-thinking person about how to protect the united states. >> the other part of this, obviously, is petraeus' legacy in afghanistan, and being the author of the book on counterinsurgency in a literal sense, to what extent was the implications of that doctrine of the policy decisions that he was part of running up to this are going to be ultimately much, much more important going forward than any -- i think than to go to john's point, who knows what this is. but right now, we should also be having a pretty healthy debate about when we switched from counterterror to counterinsurgency over there. >> yeah. >>> still ahead, newt gingrich also chair of the dnc debbie wasserman schultz, more "morning joe" in a moment. [ male announcer ] human
somebody that smart when so much of the war on terror is prosecuted by the cia, to have someone from the pentagon with his background move over to the cia and head that was incredibly lucky for the country because there are few other people who could've made that change, survived moving from one tough bureaucracy to another and be such a great intellectual and forward-thinking person about how to protect the united states. >> the other part of this, obviously, is petraeus' legacy in...
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i want to bring in cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, adultery can be a crime in the military but it is not in the cia. it can, however, be a risky, risky endeavor. are there any indications at this point that our national security was threatened in the petraeus case? >> well, ashleigh, so far there is no indication of that but the facts have not come out in public. earlier today retired general james "spider "marks who broadwell once worked for and knows petraeus addressed this very question. >> there's absolutely almost zero percent chance that national security was compromised or was at risk. now, clearly, based on an initial investigation, there might have been classified documents that were found on her laptop. again, that might be more procedural than it is a large risk. so that needs to be looked into and that needs to be put aside so you can end that discussion and frankly you can let dave petraeus and paula go on with their lives because frankly the cia is going to be okay. >> look, by all accounts, broadwell, a reservi
i want to bring in cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, adultery can be a crime in the military but it is not in the cia. it can, however, be a risky, risky endeavor. are there any indications at this point that our national security was threatened in the petraeus case? >> well, ashleigh, so far there is no indication of that but the facts have not come out in public. earlier today retired general james "spider "marks who broadwell once worked for and knows...
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but first, we go to our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. she has more on this developing story, breaking headline after headline today. barbara, where is general allen right now? what is his reaction to these allegations of potentially inappropriate e-mails? >> reporter: well, erin, general allen is said to be here in washington. in fact, he flew here from afghanistan, because on thursday he was supposed to have that senate confirmation hearing to become the military head of nato, all of that now on hold. sources close to general allen have told our own nick paton walsh that allen says he did not have an affair with jill kelley, a pentagon official has also said directly that general allen denies any affair, any extra marital involvement with jill kelley. but look, erin. the reality here is, defense secretary leon panetta ordered up a full-blown inspector general investigation, and a lot of people around the pentagon say leon panetta wouldn't have done that unless there was something that needed to be looked into. >> and barbara, what's you
but first, we go to our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. she has more on this developing story, breaking headline after headline today. barbara, where is general allen right now? what is his reaction to these allegations of potentially inappropriate e-mails? >> reporter: well, erin, general allen is said to be here in washington. in fact, he flew here from afghanistan, because on thursday he was supposed to have that senate confirmation hearing to become the military head of nato,...
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put out a statement yesterday that sounded very confident that once he feels like people review the pentagon inspector general ends up reviewing the e-mails, they'll find there's nothing egregrious there. that may end up being the case. you're seeing a defense secretary now sort of cast a wide net and send aid very clear message that if this kind of thing is going on among other flag officers, senior officers, that it needs to be fixed immediately. >> so i think, suzanne, one of the things so many people have been astounded at when the they hear about two four-star generals involved is the access that these women, jill kelley and paula broadwell seemed to have to them. have they had their wings clipped? >> well, this is such a fascinating discussion in so many different directions you can take on it. it was great reporting from kyra phillips that you just played a few minutes ago. there are still some really tough questions even for general petraeus. he didn't come public about this. he didn't come clean. he didn't start apologizing till after he was caught. i think we do have to offer a lit
put out a statement yesterday that sounded very confident that once he feels like people review the pentagon inspector general ends up reviewing the e-mails, they'll find there's nothing egregrious there. that may end up being the case. you're seeing a defense secretary now sort of cast a wide net and send aid very clear message that if this kind of thing is going on among other flag officers, senior officers, that it needs to be fixed immediately. >> so i think, suzanne, one of the...
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the pentagon has now launched an investigation into, quote, potentially inappropriate e-mails between general allen and jill kelly, the petraeus family friend at the center of this increasingly strange scandal. the fbi has turned over 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents found during the probe. many are e-mails between allen and kelly sent over the last two years. it was kelly, petraeus' former deputy in tampa, who went to the fbi about threatening e-mails she was receiving. they were eventually traced back to petraeus' biographer, paula broadwell, spurring the investigation that led to the cia director's resignation. meantime, overnight, nearly a dozen federal agents descended on paula broadwell's home. spending several hours going floor-to-floor, leaving with a desktop computer, cardboard boxes and a briefcase. authorities say broadwell consented to the search. just a few hours later, vernon loeb, who spent 16 months working side-by-side with broadwell on her biography of petraeus, told the website, he had no idea about the affair. >> there was never a question in my mind. but what w
the pentagon has now launched an investigation into, quote, potentially inappropriate e-mails between general allen and jill kelly, the petraeus family friend at the center of this increasingly strange scandal. the fbi has turned over 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents found during the probe. many are e-mails between allen and kelly sent over the last two years. it was kelly, petraeus' former deputy in tampa, who went to the fbi about threatening e-mails she was receiving. they were eventually...
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let's bring in pentagon correspondent barbara starr tracking all of the developments on this. barbara, you spoke with an old friend of petraeus. how's the general reacting to all of this? >> well, i've spoken to two people now, a decades-old friend of his, someone i know quite well and also his former spokesman in iraq, of his, someone i know quite well, and also his former spokesman in iraq. both men had spoken to petraeus, the friend as well as boylynn. he, petraeus, is devastated by what he's done, the pain he's caused his family, the cia and the u.s. military, all the troops who served with him. but you know, let's face it. the person who may be in the most pain may be mrs. holly petraeus. she is said to be furious. >> you also, barbara, have lerped more about the friend, about this friend, about the timing of this whole affair, what was going on. the emotion behind it. what have you learned? >> what we are being told is that petraeus may have had no excu excuse, but may have had a very difficult time sh perhaps more emotional time than he realized when he retire from the
let's bring in pentagon correspondent barbara starr tracking all of the developments on this. barbara, you spoke with an old friend of petraeus. how's the general reacting to all of this? >> well, i've spoken to two people now, a decades-old friend of his, someone i know quite well and also his former spokesman in iraq, of his, someone i know quite well, and also his former spokesman in iraq. both men had spoken to petraeus, the friend as well as boylynn. he, petraeus, is devastated by...
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still, the pentagon suspended broadwell's security clearances. the air force base in tampa revoked jill kelley's pass to the base. >> thank you so much. i know you're going to have a lot more on "rock center" tonight with brian williams. matt? >> and that scandal, just one part of the president's news conference on wednesday. he also had a lot to say about governor romney, his rival in the presidential race, and two top republican senators. one of them john mccain. and we'll talk to senator mccain in just a moment. but first, chuck todd is at the white house this morning. chuck, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. president obama thought he was going to be using his first post election press conference to make his case on the fiscal cliff and also to show a new reaching out to republicans. instead, he found himself on the receiving end of criticism from not one, but two former presidential rivals. >> good afternoon, everybody. >> reporter: at his first post election press conference, president obama reiterated his pledge to sit
still, the pentagon suspended broadwell's security clearances. the air force base in tampa revoked jill kelley's pass to the base. >> thank you so much. i know you're going to have a lot more on "rock center" tonight with brian williams. matt? >> and that scandal, just one part of the president's news conference on wednesday. he also had a lot to say about governor romney, his rival in the presidential race, and two top republican senators. one of them john mccain. and...